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Well, my curiosity has gotten the best of me. What are your thoughts about September 11? Do you think we've grieved enough? Do you think not enough has been done to remember those who lost their lives?
I think 3000 people died on the September the 11th 5 years ago and i think it is always good to remember those people at least once a year.
I hope nothing like that will happen again because it was something terrible.
I do not think we can ever greeve enough, and I think the ones that were lost on September 11th deserve to be remembered everyday. Not just on the day they died just because everyone remembers that day. I didn't personally know anyone who was killid in those unfortunate events, but i do know people who knew people. I think thats why its so hard for me to ever forget and to stop greeving. I wish this had never happened and I hope it will never happen again.
Hey. Yes I don't think we can ever greeve enough. I do happen to know someone who lost there life. It's a shame. 3000 people. I hope and pray that nothing as tragic as this happends again. The victoms of 9/11 will always be remembered.
-Amber
Ok, guess I'm gonna be the big asshole of the bunch then. The question is asked, "do you think we've greeved enough? and like the others I'll say I don't think we can ever greeve enough about the events of that awful day. However, I don't need reminders of it every year. Every time I fly somewhere, there it is, the need for extra security and why? September 11th, that's why. and when you mail something it goes through extra security. September 11th, once again. and don't even get me started on the tv coverage or I'll go on for an hour. There's always this talk of never forgetting 9/11. But if you were alive and old enough to remember it, how could you? It was all anyone talked about for weeks, months and years on end. We can only move on as a nation if we remember the lives of those lost and keep it all in perspective, yet we don't need special programming on all the news channels to make it all hit home for us. Well, at least I don't. The media thrives on sadness and throwing it in your face. Today alone I heard at least 5 news reports about it and they even went so far as to play recordings of people who had called their loved ones on their cell phones to say goodbye. Now if that doesn't rip your heart out, nothing will. But that's it, I don't need to have my emotions messed up every year to make me remember how bad it all was. The reminders are all around us every day since that whole thing happened. So, after all that, I skipped the tv coverage and I'm damn glad I did. I can feel sad without the networks showing me awful footage.
I will agree with Nicole, and I will also say this. Although it happened in New York, i believe that this tragedy is not only an american one but that all of us should remember those who have needlessly and uselessly lost their lives.
I will say, however, that while i believe that it shold be remembered, I also think that the media most of the time take advantage of the situation as they do with many other things.
But yes, this shold be remembered, or rather, those who died should be remembered. I was going to talk about what should be done to prevent another tragedy like this but it is not the point ofr this topic. John
I actually gotta agree. Everyone has their own way of remembering 9/11. I chose not to watch the coverage every year because that date brought alot of bad memories that took years to recover. For one, I could've lost a loved one who was on his way to the Pentagon for a presentation. He ended up being late, so late that when he got half way there he was turned around.... No way in knowing if he was alive, injured or dead. We knew he was ok when he came right home.
So you see this is something I'd rather not think about, talk about or remember. I'll only remember this day as a day that people came together to help one another, and those who took a oath to protect us put their own lives on the line to save people or try to save people. The media has it's way of burning images, negitive images into minds of their viewers. And I for one chose to just read about the rememberance as it only required my attention once, not the entire day over, and over (this is how I got my anxiety and stress by seeing those horrific pictures.) of buildings crashing, people screaming, injured being rescued and the dead being pulled out of the wreckage....
To me today is just a day to show how much I appricate those who wear the uniform and protect us from harm, who give us freedom.
Whereas I agree that we should remember those who died on that awful day (I remember it well since I was at university only 30 miles outside of NYC and we got some of the injurred people at our university hospital and we pretty much all gave blood and helped the best we could) I feel president Bush, especially, keeps using this day as a justification for his "war on terror" i.e. invading Iraq etc. Every 9/11 we hear his political propaganda that tells us whatever tax dollars he's paying towards Iraq are essential for "winning the war on terror" whereas the truth is the hundreds of millions of dollars we've spent were spent attacking a country with no chemical weapons and no links to Al Qaeda whatsoever, not until now where the country has become their most important training ground. Not to hi jack this topic and turn it into Iraq discussions once again, that's not my intention, but seeing this guy giving yet another speech that seems so fake and flies so the in face of evidence, advocating violence and force over diplomacy and understanding, to me feels like he's dishonoring the victims of 9/11, I surely thought we should strive to make the world a better and more peaceful place and I fail to see how we are doing that at all as a country. I"m also just ready to move on. I saw "United 93" which was a really good, if disturbing movie, but I have no desire to see the new 9/11 movie, somehow, even if I'm sure it's good, I've had my fill of the events of that day, at least for the present. May be I'll see it a few years from now on dvd, but for now I'm just ready to live my life. Lots of other people have died tragically, just in traffic accidents or falling of buildings etc, let's remember all of those who died needlessly and try to make the world the rest of us is fortunate enough to still live in, a better place.
I too saw United Flight 93, it was an awsome movie, and it brought me back to a place ware i was on the very day and time these events took place. I felt so much pain for the victems. Just watching the movie knowing they were all going to die and they had no clue really got to me. However, like mentioned before, we all have our way of remembering, and for me watching that really brought things back, and made me realize that the poor people who's lives were lost shall never be forgotten. It actually angers me that it had to happen to such inocent and young people. There was absolutely no reason for there lives to be cut short by a group of careless and heartless idiots. I reccomend all see that movie but I must say its a tear jerker, i did cry because I'm very emotional towards people dying in such pointless nonsense like that. But I have the dvd, and I plan on watching it on each anaversery of 9/11. I'm also planning on buying the World Trade Center movie when it comes out so i can better understand what exactly happened that morning. I still don't hold anything against Iraq people, just the groups that partake in this violence. And i hope that someday America will nolonger have to be living in fear of another attack. I agree that the media can blow things up and make them out to be more then they are, but i do think that some of it is necissary to keep us alert that many people did lose there lives and many more could if the idiots ever decide to attack again. Ok i'm done ranting now, lol sorry
I think the most disturbing part of 9/11 for me was listening to the scanner recordings of the NYPD/NYFD while the events were unfolding. Her's my issue with the comemorations. Everyone was depressed, and rightfully so on Monday, but yesterday morning, the media went right back to their normal BS. And, as horific as 9/11 was, thousands of people, just not in as high of a quantity and in such a small concentrated area, are dying around the world from terrorism. If you people have dificulty grasping what happened 5 years ago, just think about if it were to happen to u on a weekly or even daily basis? I think we should not only remember those who died on 9/11, but also all of the other victims of terrorism.
it was a horrible event, and i agree with the fact that we should remember all the people once a year.
what's this world coming to
America has spent far too long bleating on about 9/11..they lose not time in comparing every event to 9/11, and let's not forget your imbecilic president marched his posse in Afganistan on the back of 9/11, and that's hardly been a success,some of us see through the bleeding herats and false sentiment, it's just another excuse for another needless war.
I was going to stay out of this, but now I have to comment. Goblin, yes, many of us don't like the fact that Bush marched us into what looks to be a never ending war. But if you had lost someone in one of those buildings or plains that crashed on that day, I'd like to hear your reaction if someone told you just to get over it and that you were carrying on about it for too long.
Right, and I just wanted to clarify that in my previous post I didn't mean to say get over it. You can't possibly ever get over it. But my problem is mainly with the media and their absolute obsession for showing every little bit of coverage they can find. They know that tragedy=ratings, so even if it's the most depressing and awful thing everyone's ever seen, you can bet that people will be tuning in. I think that yes, it is good to remember everyone who has been effected. But do it in your own way. If it helps to watch the coverage then hey, go for it.
But to me, we don't need day long tributes on tv with countless people telling us how they felt on that day. I already know, because if you haven't forgotten how bad it was, why would you need to be reminded? So I stayed away from the tv coverage and just remembered the people in my own way, and that seems to work fine for me.
I agree that the media can go overboard. Especially with so many 24-hour news networks on top of the regular networks, it can be just too much.
wow, let the jerks be revealed...
scott, i agree with you
Goblin, I agree with the majority of your post, starting with "and let's not forget your imbecilic president."
With that said:
it was a horrible event, and I feel for those who lost loved ones and for those who lost their lives.
Jim and goblin i agree with ya too someone should murder our presedent. Democrats in 06
Marilyn Manson in 06 or Trivium and Alice Cooper.
Ok, no offense here, but those last 2 posts were just plain retarted. So someone murders Bush. Then what? Dick Chainey gets to take over. hehehehe. And u think things are bad now? As for "getting over it" when it comes to 9/11, it's like any other tragic event. If u were directly effected by it, u will never competely get over it. Because it's a part of your life and is now part of who u r as a person. I'm not talking specifically about 9/11 now, but any sort of tragic event that befalls anyone.
America has milked this event beyond belief and the millions made from 9/11, where has it gone hmmm? to fuel the war on terror. bush said last night that another attack is imminent, a week after the anniversary of 9/11,is all that sensitive and compassionate? or downright retarded.
That's all retarted too. It would seem that paranoya is now running rampant everywhere, especially in the United States and that polititians are just exploiting fear. The public won't believe in their idiologies anymore, but if you throw those idiologies together with fear and that this idiology offers a haven from the fear, well, now we have a winning combonation. People are so caught up in their stupid TV programs and whatever other sorts of entertainment stimulation they need to even realize what's happening. Some people probably do realize the road we are headed down, and don't want to deal with it. Entertainment used to be a temperary escape from reality, but it's now a permanent one should u choose to make it.
Isn't that what I have just said? and no your quite wrong. The problem stems from the american people being taught not to question or think for themselves. They are mostly ill educated about the outside world and force fed junk. I will concede that they are in denial, however shoving the threat from Al Qeada down the population's throat on a daily basis. Is just stupid and you are a prime example of denial and the constant reference to me as being retarded when I have a much higher IQ than the cause of 9/11 gw bush, is ridiculous.
It was indeed a horrible event, and it's sad that so many people have lost their lives. It's sad that families are being torn apart and there are people who will never completely recover. However, that happens on a daily basis. Not on such a grand scale, perhaps, but it still happens, and I feel for those who lose loved ones on a daily basis, not only for those who've lost loved ones due to 9/11.
I'm not really trying to make any particular point with this post, or to agree or disagree with anything that has already been said. I just wish they'd stop with the huge, overtelevized memorial services every year on the anniversary, and stop making movies about it. We get the point. I certainly don't think that saying we should just get over it and move on already is a fair statement at all, but, as I said, people grieve for the loved ones they've lost on a daily basis, and these people can, too.
And as an aside, saying that you have a higher IQ than our noble, God-fearing president really isn't saying anything at all. I'm not sure I know anyone who couldn't make that statement.
Really hmm I have my doubts concerning your claim.
George Bush's IQ test results came back last week, and they were negative.
Blair is weak creature with no integrity or back bone that does not make him retarded.
Is anyone remembering the victims of the bombings in Baghdad? Is anyone comemorating the thousands that died there when America bombed the city??? Is anyone remembering any of the victims in Vietnam? I can name many who died from American 'terrorism' only it is called by HAPPY names so no one will notice like Operation Freedom, or Helping Vietnam against communism! It's actually funny that since 9/11 America claims the first place of 'victimized country' while in it's constant expansionism towards controling all the worlds oil, and other resorces, America has 'terorrized' the whole world. It's even sadder that the whole world sees that except those who live IN America because all the news Americans are exposed to are regulated by your covernment... No I am not happy that thousands died in NYC on 9/11, but I am ALSO greeving for the thousands more who die every day ever since 9/11 in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc. Star
In regard to Vietnam, although it was a mistake, it was a military conflict during the cold war and it wasn't just the US fighting against communism. And as for the bombings in bagdad, it's unfortunate that innocent people died but hundreds of thousands of innocent people were tortured and executed under Saddam's dictatorship, and, again, it wasn't just the US involved in that either.